* Webmaster
note: The accounts of these two days for the
Shark Gunship Platoon are only what we've gathered
thus far.
On March 3rd, the Sharks were
involved in a major Combat Assault into LZ Lolo, inside Laos. On March 5th, the Sharks were
involved in
a major insertion into LZ Sophia. Please keep in mind, that these
are only two days of
events during Lam Son 719. It was a time of cost in lives, wounded and lost aircraft in 174th
AHC History, as
was with so many other Aviation Units... and US Army Aviation
History. See
The 101st List of
Units Involved During
Lam Son 719. The Operation/Action took place from 30 Jan 1971 to 09 April 1971. LTC Mike
Sloniker (Ret) has spent thousands of hours
researching aviation related history for
various units and Vietnam Veterans. He
is the foremost Historian of the Lam Son 719/Laos
Assault.
We
encourage anyone viewing this page to make updates and corrections to the
information on this page. Contact
Jim McDaniel.
The late Fred Thompson speaks about March 3rd 1971:
“A Shark
fire team of Shark #170 (UH-1C #64-14170) ‘Ace of
Spades’ and a replacement Gunship Shark
#092 (UH-1C #66-15092 had been in the Unit only one month), were
both shot down on this day in Laos. Though
their mission was to fly escort for some
'news people', they were supposedly in
support of the Combat Assault into LZ Lolo as well.
CPT Greg Smith (the late) was in
the ’lead’ aircraft (#092) and Gary Harter was flying
as his ‘wing’ (#170).
Multiple weapons in the same area, near LZ Lolo,
brought both of the
aircraft down in a clearing beside QL9. Some reports have
them being the only gunship support for the Combat Assault, and flying over
the LZ
(Lolo) covering with rockets and guns. Thus would explain the confusion of why the team
went
down near LZ Lolo or the escarpment.” -Fred Thompson
Bob Jansen
speaks about that day (In a letter - 3/20/99. This excerpt is
included in his, very vivid, full story "Retirement of a Shark
Gun"):
"On March 3rd at about 4:00PM while at Khe Sanh, we got a
Shark
gunship fire team mission to escort two slicks with CBS reporters into
Laos. We all had
a bad feeling about this one. We headed for Laos.
After
escorting the CBS reporters
into LZ Lolo, where they would spend the night with
the ARVNS, we flew around waiting for
the two slicks to come out. This is when I
spotted black smoke coming out of the jungle
a ways off. I told my Pilot, Mr.
Gary Harter, what I saw and he relayed it to the lead
Shark. At that time we
didn't know it a burning helicopter -- it was Capt. John Bishop's
ship that was
down. The crew included Bishop, 1LT Carl Flemmer, C/E Larry Rhodes,
and
doorgunner Gary Padilla. Padilla did not survive. See "Cpt.
John Bishop's
Shootdown".
The lead Gunship made a pass near the smoke
and was shot
down quick! They were able to set down in a small clearing where
somebody
had been, because it was surrounded with foxholes. We made several circles
around them and all was quiet.
Then, all at once, it seemed like every
tree,
bush and blade of grass had NVA behind them, and 'all hell broke loose'
around us. It
seemed like everything was in a fast, but slow motion. We were
about 50 feet up and in
a right hand circling turn. Either P.J. Roths or Bennie
Holmes was our other pilot
(Webmaster note: Actually, both of these
pilots say they were not there). I was flying
left side and Pat Wade was right.
I
could see NVA everywhere I looked and it
felt like our M-60s were firing faster
than they ever fired before, and on target.
There were so many NVA that no
matter where you fired you would kill one, but two would
take his place. On the
second circle, I was hit by a .51 Cal. bullet that came up
through the ship, hit
me in the bottom of my back and came out by my shoulder. It
definitely caused me
to take a minute and re-group. I could still function.
By
the third time
around, I had my M-60 back and we flew over the .51 cal. again. This
time they
weren't as lucky as before. I can vividly remember it -- like I was there
again.
One by one they knew their time had come. Then it was my turn again.
I
remember my M-60 getting shot out of my hands at the same time I got hit again
-- this
time by an AK-47, and once again in the back, but that bullet stayed
with me and really
knocked me over. Pat tried to help me, but we were already
going down from an unbelievable
amount of hits to the ship. Luckily, Mr. Harter
was flying. He flew half of a chopper
into the same small LZ that the other
Shark was in...landing with sort of a thump and a
cloud of dust. Mr. Harter
remembers the story from here, because I was out of it for
a while
According to Gary (and more of his account below), he and Pat pulled me out
of the ship and were
carrying
me. They kept dropping me because I was so slippery from all the blood
I was losing. The
third time I was dropped, they say I got up and said, 'Lets
get out of here.' I took off
running, and Pat tackled me and put me in a hole.
He got next to me and put his fingers
in the bullet holes and tried to slow the
bleeding. I remember lying there and watching
the NVA moving in on us. I could
hear mortars being dropped in those tubes, and coming in
on us. Small arms fire
kicked dirt in my face a couple times. Somehow, on the second
attempt,
(two slicks?) they made it in and my buddies got me on the first ship.
[* Webmaster note: The 14th CAB Daily Staff Journal/Log
from 03 March 1971 (also
courtesy of Fred Thompson) reads: Entry#: 50 Time:
1800 Incident: Boats 30 on PIO
inbound to 18th SURG with one crew member of
Shark teams. It also states "Both Sharks down
in Laos”. This would mean that "Boats 30" (a Dolphin call sign) was diverted from the “CBS press
people” on the
ground and had picked up Jansen and was in route to the Surgical Hospital at
Quang
Tri.]
Jansen continues, "I understand that all seven of the other Sharks got on the second
ship, and we all made it out of Hell that day. When the ship I was on took off,
I could
feel and hear several hits the ship was taking as we were coming out".-
Bob Jansen
Gary Harter’s recollection of that day:
“I was A/C of one of the aircraft that was
lost on March 3, 1971, the day Bob Jansen
was shot. I will defer dates and tail
numbers to those who can verify those details, I
have no documentation and my
memory is probably not good enough to take to the bank.
That being said, here is
what I believe are a few "facts" as best that I recall. Both
aircraft were lost
on the day and actually those newsmen were stranded on LZ Delta. That date
can probably
be confirmed easily, I know there have been articles regarding the incident.
Our
fire team and one Dolphin delivered them where they wanted to go. I won't speak
for
the other involved crews, but..., it was what I
considered a Romeo
Foxtrot mission.
Our lead
gunship left the immediate area of the escarpment
(that the LZ was sitting atop of).
Where the Dolphin went- I have absolutely no
recollection; I know we weren't covering
them. I followed our lead aircraft low
level onto the flat terrain between the river,
the road (QL 9) and probably
somewhere very near Lolo. Bad idea. I strongly suggested we
not pursue this
course of action any longer, it was quite simply- DANGEROUS territory. We
turned
east, roughly following QL 9 when our lead aircraft flew towards and directly
over
the site of what was a downed aircraft. They were instantly under fire from
the same NVA
guns, took hits and landed in small clearing astride the road. No
crewmen of the other
Shark were injured; I don't know how much damage there was
to the aircraft.
We
circled their position, I called for our Dolphin to
come to their rescue, I saw people
moving across the road a hundred yards or so
east of the downed Shark, and then Bob
Jansen was shot and our transmission was
apparently hit. I only remember the gauges
being screwed up, and so I landed
next to our lead aircraft. Bob tells it like it was.
When the Dolphin came in,
myself and our door gunner shoved him on the Slick and I told
him to GO. Did
anyone else get onboard you might well ask? No... the only concern that
was in
my mind was getting Bob out of there. I do recall talking to the rescue pilot
later that day; he figured I knew what I was doing, and that we were going to
fly the Sharks
out. Seconds after he lifted off, and standing there like an
idiot, it became obvious
that we were all so worried about Bob, that we didn't
even think to get ourselves
rescued. I got in my aircraft and started calling
for help, by now very scared.
We were picked up by what was a command
ship from the 101st (158th?); I remember
the pilots shoulder patch and all the
radio consoles, and a very unhappy looking
field grade officer whose day was
probably going from bad to worse. They dropped us
off at Khe Sahn, we found out
that Bob was already on his way to Quang Tri's hospital;
how we got home I don't
remember.
My co-pilot that day was a captain, certain of
that, new to the
unit. Anybody know? Sorry, I can't remember that, or who was co-pilot
(Pilot was
Cpt. Greg Smith), or crew of the other Shark. I do believe that Bill Wilder
was
on the ground with us that day but you'd have to ask him. Neither of the
aircraft
were recovered to the best of my knowledge. Any way to
confirm that (see Bill Wilder's comment further below)? Does this
help you out or does it only restate
or contradict events you already know? I have been
silent and uninvolved over
the years about these things. I did give my recollections
about the day Bruce
Marshall and Lt. Souders were wounded... to the VHPA years ago. That
was when I
realized how foggy my memory is of what I thought I remember and how others
remembered the same events differed". - Gary Harter Shark 14
The
late Pat
Wade wrote (12/28/99 email):
"We were
shot down on 03 March
1971. At this time the campaign was not going so well. We
(Shark #170) were escorting some
newspaper people into a LZ near Lolo (Delta maybe?), and after
we dropped them off, we either picked up
an SOS or we saw smoke and
investigated, and then all hell broke loose. We saw a lot of
NVA in the open and
engaged, but later, we saw that they were in a big defensive position.
At
this time all maneuvers were flown at low level because of the quad 50s and 20
mm. My gunner (Bob Jansen) took a hit through the back and grazed me, then we
took 5-10
rounds of 50 into the engine and transmission. Simultaneously our
sister ship (#092) took
hits too and we sort of landed in formation, the place
we landed was an old
clearing/defensive position with a lot of foxholes around.
I grabbed Jansen and threw
him in a foxhole and dove on top of him. We had 4
sixties and l000 rounds with us. So
we set up a perimeter
(halfass).
Wilder (C/E on the other Shark) was cracking
me up, cuz he was
pulling the radios out and shooting them. One of our Dolphin ships
tried to pick
us up and was taking hits. It came in so fast that we couldn't decide
who was
going out with him, so as we loaded Jansen, the ship took off with only him on
it. So, after the Dolphin pilot swore at us, and dropped him off, another slick
came
in (a Dolphin? I don't remember) and picked the rest of us up.
It
was not til
30 years later that I talked to him (Bob) about me trying to clean
his back wound. I
hadn’t seen the second wound… it came up through his back and
out through his shoulder.
He said he loved me. And we still laugh about that".-
Pat Wade
From the above accounts, we now
know that on Wednesday,
03 March 1971; UH-1C
#64-14170 (pictured above in late 1970) was
crewed by A/C Gary Harter, Co-Pilot unknown (Harter says, “He was a Capt. new to the
Unit...Morgan Mills maybe?"),
Pat Wade (right Door Gunner) and Bob
Jansen (the Crew Chief). The other Gunship UH-1C
#66-15092 was piloted by CPT Greg Smith
flying “Lead ” for the
fire team (Crew Chief was SP4 Bill Wilder). Others of the crew of Shark
#092
unknown at this time. Can anybody help here?
SP4 Bill Wilder tells us that
Shark #170 was "sling loaded (Chinook)"
back to Quang Tri later this day. " I DX'd it. Half of the right fuselage was gone."- Bill.
The below poor Xerox photos are from A Japanese 1973 publication
showing
Shark #092 on exhibit somewhere. Provided by Mike A. Campbell... to Ted
Saunders. With some research, we now
know that the aircraft in question is actually in Vientiane, Laos.
The Japanese
Issue is: The KOKU-FAN
(JAPANESE TEXT)
Can anyone translate the text on this
photo?
THE NORTH
VIETNAMESE FORCES IN THE SOUTHEAST ASIA WAR
JAN.
1973 Page 89.
NO ISBN
/ NO LCCN
NON-FICTION
PUBLISHER:BUNRIN-DO CO.,
LTD
NO. 55 1-CHOME JINBO-CHO,
KANDA, CHIYODA-KU,
TOKYO,
JAPAN
Fred Thompson speaks about Friday, March
5, 1971 (email 9/26/99):
"On 5 March, the 174th
(as many other
supporting units.. too many to mention here honorably, see the page
intro above
this page) inserted the 1st ARVN Divsion into LZ Sophia. The insertion
met with
fierce anti-aircraft fire. Shark replacement aircraft both UH-1C #66-15169
(first picture below) and UH-1C #66-15094 (second photo below) were
shot down (again within vicinity of each other)"- Fred. Through conversation with Fred
Thompson, we know that #094 was crewed by Neal
Varner, Chuck Blake, Bill Wilder, and Yogi Reaves.
Yogi Reaves recollection of 3/5/71:
“...I was flying with Wilder (in #094) on the day in
question, There was six (174th
and 71st) gunships flying low level. (Note: The 71st? Can anyone
confirm that?)
Our operations told us where to fly and how high. Seems they
forgot
to tell us they were flying us over an NVA base!
The trail ship
(wasn’t a Shark,
probably the 71st) took a RPG through the chin bubble. I
remember the radio call,
'TAKING HITS, GOING DOWN, MAYDAY'. We turned just in
time to see the ship go up at
about a 45 degree angle then fall through the
trees. We circled around to cover
the downed bird and saw NVA everywhere. We
shot everything we had, along with the
other five ships. I remember shooting at
NVA in semi bunkers with their auto-weapons
shooting at us. We lost both SHARKS
that day. When we were hit, smoke filled the cabin.
My pilots that day were
Chuck Blake and Neil Varner. I remember when we went down (#094),
we hit right
beside the other Shark (#169) that was already down. I remember the medevac
trying to get in and taking heavy fire. It was a slick that finally got us out…
after
many attempts and much enemy fire EVERYWHERE. I remember this day because
I was awarded
a Distinguish Flying Cross for knocking out a few enemy bunkers
before going down.
Believe me I will near forget that day”. - Yogi
Reaves
Both the
Shark crews on March 5th were extracted
uninjured. This was the second Shark team
to be downed in three days. It is
disputed that none of the four aircraft were to be
recovered due to intense
enemy fire (but please see above). These pictures were taken in black-and-white by a North
Vietnamese (NVA) photographer... and years later were acquired from U.S. Defense
Intelligence
Agency (DIA) files".- Mike Sloniker/Jim McDaniel
In this bottom picture, an NVA soldier is clearly approaching
the Shark with his rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) at the ready. Note the 19-shot
rocket pod laying on the ground. While it is very difficult to see on this
scanned
photo, the dark spots directly above the aft end of the rocket pod, on
the side of
the engine cowling in front of the exhaust stack, are several rather
large holes
from a .51 Caliber antiaircraft gun- Mike Sloniker/Jim McDaniel
"These rare black & white photos above show
the 05 March 1971 shoot down of #169 (background) and #094. (foreground). The brush
covering the aircraft was done by the NVA... for reasons we do not know...probably
to avoid our reinforcements or recovery of the aircraft.It was this day (March 5th)
that Dolphin Cpt
Don Peterson was cassette taping radio transmissions and captured the
sequence
of the shoot down and Mayday call by 1Lt Ralph "Butch" Elliot and the crew of
"Witchdoctor 5, the 174th's aircraft recovery bird. See "Witchdoctor
5 is Down"
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